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Post by Jim W on Aug 29, 2022 6:24:55 GMT -7
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Post by phlash on Aug 29, 2022 22:01:18 GMT -7
Those early sports cars would be a fun group to run.
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Post by Jim W on Sept 2, 2022 6:11:05 GMT -7
As you see from the listings of the cars and what motor they came with, it would be hard to assemble a class of cars. In the past, we had only run these cars with the NC-1 or the NC-8 motors in the cars. I don't know where to find these motors anymore. The other problem is certain cars came with a NC-1 which is a FC-130 motor and others came with an FK-180 motor which requires an adapter to install an FK-130 motor, the NC-8, in the cars. You cannot swap a FC-130 into a car that had an FK-130/180 motor without cutting up the chassis to fit or using an aftermarket adapter, if one is still made.
When I tried these cars on my 3-lane track, when equipped with the NC-1 or NC-8, some of the cars were slow enough to go around the track without letting up on the throttle, so I didn't use these cars for the IROC class because I didn't want Harry to win.
Jim W
How many guys already have one of these cars already besides Jerry, Tom and me, Jim W? Would the other members be willing to spend the approx. 60 plus dollars for one of these cars and then possibly still have to find and buy the "correct" motor and adapter?
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Post by amiatanut/marc.gosselin on Sept 2, 2022 11:46:35 GMT -7
We used to run this class back in NH, we called it the NC-1 class. Our rules allowed an eqivilent motor such as the H&R 14k "Jack Rabbit" motor. Thus we allowed any 14k motor and changing the axles/gears/wheels with slot.it or similar brands along with silicon tires.Basically the body and chassis was Ninco, the running gear was similar. Made for a fun slow class!
Marc
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Post by Jim W on Sept 5, 2022 8:10:13 GMT -7
Marc,
What did you do with the cars that came with the NC-8 or NC-5 motors? These are FK-130 or FK-180 motors and the NC-1 or FC-130 motors, such as a H&R 14k Jack Rabbit will not fit in the cars. A Ninco Porsche 550 like I have doesn't have an "adapter" to allow the changing of the motor with any other style or size of motor. The Ninco Porsche 550 will fit an FK-130 motor only in the chassis, mine came with a NC-8 motor.
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Post by Jim W on Sept 5, 2022 8:32:54 GMT -7
I do have a Ninco Austin-Healey that had a bad chassis that I did replace with a 3D printed chassis. I have used BRM 15mm x 7mm wheels and have used Slot.it running gear to make it back on the track with this car. I have a NC-2, which is the original motor from the car, in it now. It is a fun car that I had to wait a while until someone in Europe made a chassis design for the car. I also found that they make a couple other chassis for the Ninco classics, like the 1956 Corvette, which I did get at the same time.
Jim W
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Post by amiatanut/marc.gosselin on Sept 5, 2022 14:39:05 GMT -7
Jim, I just have 2 cars from that class left, a Ninco Jag XK120 and a Pinkar Ferrari 250 GTO. The Jag came with a long can. I have no idea what adaptor is in it. I don’t remember at all what motor was in the Ferrari but it currently has an 18k with a 2 piece adaptor that I’ve had for a long time. I’ll bring both to Chris’s on Saturday for you to see. Where did you find 3D chassis for the ‘56 Ninco corvette? I’m interested.
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Post by DennLeo on Sept 5, 2022 15:49:45 GMT -7
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Post by Jim W on Sept 6, 2022 8:36:56 GMT -7
Dennis,
I have that Corvette, mine now has the NC-8 motor and adapter in my car. When they came out, one of the members complained about how the car wasn't a true copy of the actual car. The funny thing is he had a different model of the Corvette and didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with it. I like the car because it was a model of the car without a top. I also have a soft top and a hard top Ninco Corvette. These are my favorite cars from the Ninco Classic series. Don't worry Dennis, the price when I bought my last new Ninco cars new was $60-$70. My last new Ninco car may have listed for $79.
Marc, I bought the 3D chassis from a seller called National Racers 3D. They are listed on Shapways printing site, or you can order direct from them in Europe. The chassis for the Ninco Classics cars are a "one piece" chassis that includes the motor mount. The rear of the motor mount is cut away/open so the chassis does have float for the motor and axle assembly. They do make a chassis for each of the Ninco Classic cars, Ferrari 166, Porsche 956, Cobra, Austin Healey and the Jaguar XK-120. Of course, nothing for the Porsche 550 and Testa Rosa, since these cars are a clam shell design or don't have the ability to accept a different style motor in their chassis. They are not cheap and cost about $30 for a chassis. Found another designer on Shapways.com that also makes a 3D printed chassis for Ninco Classics, Amato Slot Car Design. These are a 3D printed chassis that will use the Slot.it inline motor mount. The one I looked at was $16 - $35 depending on the material used to print the chassis.
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Post by Jim W on Sept 6, 2022 10:02:26 GMT -7
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Post by DennLeo on Sept 6, 2022 12:30:53 GMT -7
Do we know for sure if we are going to race Ninco classic or is it just talk at this time?
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Post by Jim W on Sept 6, 2022 19:41:02 GMT -7
Dennis, simple answer is no for this class.
As you see, these cars are not made any more and if you find one on Ebay or anywhere else, they would be expensive. Then the car would probably need to have a different motor put in the car, which would also require an adapter to change the car from a long can motor to a short can motor of the "correct" manufacture and RPM. Does everyone want to spend a $100.00 for one of these cars, and then spend another $25 to $50 to get the car "ready to race". I don't think most guys will do that, so I do Not think this class will be run anytime in the future. It would take 10 members to prove me wrong. Then if the class is run like Marc's Club from NH did, with the Slot.it parts and new wheels, bushings and axles, plus a different motor, I have to add some more money to the total to have a car like Marc's old club ran years ago when the cars were available.
I say this class is will not be run anytime with the RMSCC. Only a few members have cars now and it would be a great expense to get a car for this class if you wanted to run this class, NINCO Classics.
Jim W
Just my idea for a new class is to have the cars available to all members, such as some of the classes we have run. Look at a few new classes we have run, such as the Revoslot, Sideways Group 5, Can Am with the Thunderslot and Slot.it cars, Modern GT with the many different cars that keep coming out from the manufacturers and Rally cars. We could pick another new class, or we could keep using the many different classes we already run.
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Post by DennLeo on Sept 7, 2022 4:32:16 GMT -7
OK works for me. I don't understand why the motor needs to be changed but it doesn't make a difference since we are not going to race them.
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Post by Tom Dolan on Sept 7, 2022 7:50:59 GMT -7
OK works for me. I don't understand why the motor needs to be changed but it doesn't make a difference since we are not going to race them. It's too bad since these are great cars to run, even box stock +. Cars don't have to be rocket ships to be fun. if we did decide to run these, there is no need to change anything. Tom
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Post by Jim W on Sept 7, 2022 8:01:45 GMT -7
If the ten members or so would buy a NINCO car and have it equipped with the "standard" motor for our club, yes, we would run them. These cars from NINCO came with many different motors, so yes you may need to make a change to a car. I bought a NINCO Porsche 956 and it came with a NC-6/NC-12 motor. This motor has twice the power of the NC-8 motor that our Club has used in the past. So, I had to buy a different motor, NC-8, and also an adapter to put the combination in the chassis. Luck was with me, since this car's chassis would allow me to use the motor and adapter to now power my car. There were some 3D printed motor adapters at one time, but the designer does not make parts for slot cars any longer.
Jim W
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