dkmura
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Post by dkmura on Sept 17, 2023 12:39:55 GMT -7
How should RMSCC use our treasury funds? In 2023, there are some track owners who have requested some compensation for snacks, drinks and general upkeep of the tracks themselves. This proposal is to allow the use of RMSCC treasury funds to provide compensation UPON REQUEST by a track owner depending on the number of entries at that track in a quarter. For example, a track that hosts two races in a quarter with 12 entries per race can apply for $24 in compensation from the treasurer. This simplifies having to collect entry fees before certain races and is a transparent and fair way to use RMSCC treasury funds.
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Post by amiatanut/marc.gosselin on Sept 17, 2023 17:31:04 GMT -7
I’d like better definition of “fairly compensate track owners”. If I understand your description above a track owner get 15 drivers with 2 cars they get $30 but if a track owner only gets 6 drivers with 2 cars he gets only $12? If this is the case then I will vote no, thats not fair because the track owner does not know how n=many will show up so has to plan for at least 10-12 drivers.
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dkmura
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Post by dkmura on Sept 17, 2023 18:03:33 GMT -7
I’d like better definition of “fairly compensate track owners”. If I understand your description above a track owner get 15 drivers with 2 cars they get $30 but if a track owner only gets 6 drivers with 2 cars he gets only $12? If this is the case then I will vote no, thats not fair because the track owner does not know how n=many will show up so has to plan for at least 10-12 drivers. It's going to be difficult to come up with a perfectly equitable compensation package for every track owner. Some track owners may not want any compensation, while others may want (or need) more. But offering every track owner the same amount wouldn't be fair either. Even if you schedule a race and plan for 10-12 racers to show up, there's no guarantee they will all come. Please vote as your conscience dictates, this is only an attempt to USE our treasury in a constructive manner. |
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Post by DennLeo on Sept 18, 2023 6:54:17 GMT -7
Another way to use club funds would be to buy a supply of color stickers for racing at Colpar and also track tape and other maintenance items for Colpar track.
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Post by phlash on Sept 19, 2023 21:09:54 GMT -7
Back on December 25th, 2022, Dave Muramoto created the thread; "RMSCC treasury idea" (still viewable under the 'General Discussion' header) with the intent to elicit ideas upon which RMSCC treasury funds should or could be utilized. There were a few varying ideas, starting off with what Dave himself suggested. After about 3 pages, it all fell silent with no resolution or in fact any determination to spend any or all of those accumulated funds.
It is my belief that since the funds derived from all paying members, those paying members should all benefit from any expenditure from the treasury funds. Suggestions of merit included a tire truing machine that any member could utilize, to incorporating funds with the expressed purpose of facilitating repairs to Colpar's track and equipment, such as copper tape, stickers for lane recognition, and controller repair/replacement. Such funds were in fact used to reimburse Tom for stickers he acquired and for replacement "grabbers" that had been damaged by non-member usage.
While I understand the purpose of this "poll", as an instrument to gauge popular opinion among our membership regarding essentially reimbursing certain track owners for varied reasons ranging from usage/maintenance to snack provisions, I feel this is an improper proposition. It puts the voting member in a position to either agree with using treasury funds for this purpose or disagreeing with it. Not, more importantly, whether a track owner (essentially sanctioned by the RMSCC) should or can be allowed to require a fee for member racing events.
Any track owner may require any fee he wants for a racing event, whether members agree or disagree.
Any member can choose to pay and participate or not, it's their decision.
Equally, the RMSCC can choose whether to sanction the event or not.
Optimally, the solution is to have an equitable and consistent application from all track owners who have requested racing dates to be incorporated into the RMSCC's schedule of racing. It should actually fall into the RMSCC's requirements from the track owners that wish to host races. An example of this was the requirement to incorporate the timing and scoring systems in current usage among all hosting tracks. While not required, but possibly suggested, controllers have also been replaced.
The RMSCC could stipulate that no "entry fees" can be assessed for sanctioned events. Or they could stipulate just the opposite; "entry fees" will be paid for each event. Currently and for as long as I've been a member, no entry fees were ever proposed or collected. The first mention of fee collection was only raised last week.
The fact that this topic is divisive in and of itself, is self evident. It's obvious from their statements that there are more track owners who want no part of charging fees. Three are known to support fees. In the end it will come down to membership input and ultimately RMSCC's hopefully consistent determination.
Obviously, I have refrained from voting in this poll for the very reasons outlined above.
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Jim W
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Post by Jim W on Sept 23, 2023 7:15:04 GMT -7
As far as I remember, we have had an "open door" on if a track owner wants some assistance of funds for each track. This club had given money to help get Colpar's track get up to our standards of racing. I believe we helped get the timing, Trackmate, and controllers that we use. Jerry would know the answers to how much and when we did this. There was a poll back then to see if we would use our funds to assist on getting the Colpar track running for our club use. We have been getting a discount on Slot car parts and cars.
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Post by Jim W on Sept 23, 2023 7:31:05 GMT -7
Have we ever paid for the timing system that we are now using at Colpar? At one time, John P had brought his timimg system in so we could continue to race at Colpar. I believe that Harry brought in a different computer so we can continue to race at Colpar. Have these guys ever been compensated?
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Post by Tom Dolan on Sept 23, 2023 10:04:45 GMT -7
As far as I remember, we have had an "open door" on if a track owner wants some assistance of funds for each track. This club had given money to help get Colpar's track get up to our standards of racing. I believe we helped get the timing, Trackmate, and controllers that we use. Jerry would know the answers to how much and when we did this. There was a poll back then to see if we would use our funds to assist on getting the Colpar track running for our club use. We have been getting a discount on Slot car parts and cars. The club contributed about $200.00 towards the Colpar track. I also donated a computer and a monitor early in the Colpar track’s days. Tom |
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Post by Tom Dolan on Sept 24, 2023 7:30:40 GMT -7
I can't believe it has come to this. I only SUGGESTED the fee to see what the club thought. Obviously the club DOESN'T like the idea so just drop it. SHIT!!!! Tom  |
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dkmura
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Post by dkmura on Sept 25, 2023 13:52:44 GMT -7
Tom- I only suggested this so we'd have a constructive way to use the treasury funds. As you say, only six people have voted on it, and the vote is a tie. If it remains at a stalemate by the end of September, I'll consider it doesn't have enough popular support and will just drop the idea.
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dkmura
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Post by dkmura on Oct 1, 2023 16:45:48 GMT -7
With only six votes registered last month, and an overall tie with this proposal, I withdraw it.
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